{"id":11770,"date":"2021-03-13T12:28:08","date_gmt":"2021-03-13T18:28:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/naturalwomanhood.org\/?p=11770"},"modified":"2025-02-03T15:25:33","modified_gmt":"2025-02-03T21:25:33","slug":"%d0%b8%d0%bd%d1%82%d0%b5%d1%80%d0%b2%d1%8c%d1%8e-%d1%81-%d0%bb%d0%b8%d0%b7%d0%be%d0%b9-%d1%85%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b4%d1%80%d0%b8%d0%ba%d1%81%d0%be%d0%bd-%d0%b4%d0%b6%d0%b5%d0%ba-%d0%bf%d1%8f%d1%82%d1%8b","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/naturalwomanhood.org\/ru\/interview-with-lisa-hendrickson-jack-fifth-vital-sign-fertility-friday\/","title":{"rendered":"\u041b\u0438\u0437\u0430 \u0425\u0435\u043d\u0434\u0440\u0438\u043a\u0441\u043e\u043d-\u0414\u0436\u0435\u043a \u043e\u0431\u044a\u044f\u0441\u043d\u044f\u0435\u0442, \u043a\u0430\u043a \u0435\u0441\u0442\u0435\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0435\u043d\u043d\u044b\u0435 \u043c\u0435\u043d\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0443\u0430\u043b\u044c\u043d\u044b\u0435 \u0446\u0438\u043a\u043b\u044b \u043e\u0431\u0435\u0441\u043f\u0435\u0447\u0438\u0432\u0430\u044e\u0442 \"\u043f\u044f\u0442\u044b\u0439 \u0436\u0438\u0437\u043d\u0435\u043d\u043d\u043e \u0432\u0430\u0436\u043d\u044b\u0439 \u043f\u0440\u0438\u0437\u043d\u0430\u043a\""},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Many people know Lisa Hendrickson-Jack&nbsp;as the creator of the most popular podcast&nbsp;on fertility health,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/fertilityfriday.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Fertility Friday<\/a>. Others know her from her pivotal book&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Fifth-Vital-Sign-Optimize-Fertility\/dp\/1999428005\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>The&nbsp;Fifth Vital Sign<\/em><\/a>.&nbsp;Still others know her for her&nbsp;one-on-one coaching&nbsp;in navigating&nbsp;the challenging transition from hormonal birth control to&nbsp;fertility awareness charting.&nbsp;However&nbsp;you&nbsp;may&nbsp;know Lisa, we are pleased to bring&nbsp;you&nbsp;an interview with&nbsp;her,&nbsp;completed exclusively for Natural Womanhood.&nbsp;In fact, this is the first in our new series of interviews with important voices in the fertility awareness movement, and we&nbsp;are&nbsp;thrilled that Lisa could be our inaugural&nbsp;interviewee.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this interview, Lisa&nbsp;sheds&nbsp;light on how&nbsp;charting your cycle with a <a href=\"https:\/\/naturalwomanhood.org\/topic\/fertility-awareness-methods\/\">fertility awareness method (FAM)<\/a> can help&nbsp;everyone from&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/naturalwomanhood.org\/topic\/fertility-awareness-methods\/teaching-teens\/\">teens wanting to know with precision when their period is coming<\/a>,&nbsp;to young women seeking to avoid birth control side effects such as <a href=\"https:\/\/naturalwomanhood.org\/topic\/birth-control-side-effects\/depression\/\">anxiety and depression<\/a>,&nbsp;to women <a href=\"https:\/\/naturalwomanhood.org\/topic\/infertility\/trying-to-conceive\/\">looking to conceive<\/a> a child in the next few years.&nbsp;Throughout, Lisa reminds us&nbsp;that natural menstrual cycles with ovulation are the often overlooked &#8220;fifth vital sign,&#8221; and important factors in women\u2019s overall health. She notes how&nbsp;any period issues we experience are signs of issues our body is trying to tell us&nbsp;require&nbsp;attention and treatment to resolve, instead of just symptom reduction with hormonal contraceptives.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We hope you\u2019ll enjoy some of these clips from our conversation with Lisa Hendrickson-Jack, as well as the full 45-minute interview at the end of this article.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-makes-modern-fertility-awareness-methods-different-from-the-rhythm-method-nbsp\"><span id=\"what-makes-modern-fertility-awareness-methods-different-from-the-rhythm-method\">What makes modern Fertility Awareness Methods different from the Rhythm Method?&nbsp;<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"How modern FAMs and NFP are NOT the Rhythm Method interview with Lisa Hendrickson-Jack\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Nei3h6iIEQ8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lisa Hendrickson-Jack<\/strong>: \u201cModern day fertility awareness-based methods are not the same, because you\u2019re not basing your actions&nbsp;on a calendar or a number or a calculation. What you\u2019re doing is actually&nbsp;tracking&nbsp;your fertile signs each and every day\u2014you\u2019re understanding what\u2019s happening in your cycle.&nbsp;The only time in your cycle when pregnancy is possible is the first half\u2014the preovulatory phase\u2014that\u2019s the only time when pregnancy can happen;&nbsp;and&nbsp;once you ovulate, pregnancy can\u2019t happen, so first&nbsp;of all, educating yourself on that is really important.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe second thing that\u2019s important with modern&nbsp;FAM&nbsp;is that you track your signs so you can tell if&nbsp;you\u2019re&nbsp;fertile or not based on your cervical fluid and based on&nbsp;the changes in&nbsp;your cervical position.&nbsp;Literally every day you say &#8216;am I fertile or not based on what I saw?&#8217; It\u2019s a very different&nbsp;approach.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe most commonly cited study on the effectiveness of&nbsp;the&nbsp;Sympto-Thermal Method [shows an effectiveness rate of]&nbsp;99.4%.&nbsp;In that study,&nbsp;the participants were&nbsp;trained in the method by a certified instructor and&nbsp;were following&nbsp;the method exactly.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;what it means&nbsp;is that,&nbsp;if you identify the days in your cycle in which you can get pregnant and you do not have unprotected sex on those days, then you can\u2019t get pregnant. The key&nbsp;is to understand the rules and to follow the rules effectively. It\u2019s definitely freeing.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-nbsp-could-fertility-awareness-teach-nbsp-teen-girls-nbsp-that-is-nbsp-missing-from-sex-education-nbsp\"><span id=\"what-could-fertility-awareness-teach-teen-girls-that-is-missing-from-sex-education\">What&nbsp;could fertility awareness teach&nbsp;teen girls&nbsp;that is&nbsp;missing from sex education?&nbsp;<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"What teen girls aren\u2019t taught in sex education (understanding of cycles) \/\/ Lisa Hendrickson-Jack\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/90OnQzCfhj0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lisa Hendrickson-Jack<\/strong>: \u201cImagine&nbsp;for all of you who have daughters\u2026 that your teenage daughter, you teach her about her cycle; you teach her that ovulation is this incredible function that is how you make your hormones;&nbsp;and you teach her that as you go through your menstrual cycle, your moods and your energy may shift&nbsp;where&nbsp;you are in&nbsp;your cycle.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;you may feel more tired and want to hang out with yourself a little bit more when you\u2019re on your period.&nbsp;But as you approach ovulation,&nbsp;you&nbsp;might feel you have more energy and can be more creative and might feel&nbsp;more outgoing during that time. And&nbsp;after&nbsp;ovulation, you may feel a little less outgoing&#8230;.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Imagine what that could be like as a&nbsp;teen&#8230;&nbsp;just to organize your schoolwork or exercise&nbsp;routines&nbsp;around that. And imagine if you told her that you can predict when your period&nbsp;is&nbsp;coming.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;you never have to be scared. You never have to&nbsp;be at school terrified that you might bleed that day in class. Imagine if you told her that by tracking your cervical&nbsp;fluid&nbsp;(that stuff like creamy, white hand lotion), that if she paid attention to&nbsp;when&nbsp;she has her fluid in her cycle, then when it stopped, when it dried up, that her period will come 12-14 days later.&nbsp;Imagine if you told&nbsp;her&nbsp;you can always predict your period if you track your cycle.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I don\u2019t know about you, but when I was a&nbsp;teenager&nbsp;I&nbsp;did not know this&nbsp;information&#8230;&nbsp;Imagine what it would have been like! A lot of girls go on the Pill&nbsp;because&nbsp;they absolutely do not want to be surprised by their&nbsp;period&#8230;&nbsp;Beyond whether or not a girl decides to even consider using fertility awareness for birth control,&nbsp;there\u2019s a lot of application of fertility awareness for information. And even if she chooses to go&nbsp;on birth control at some point in the future, she\u2019ll always have that knowledge about her body that she gained from learning how to chart as a teen.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-can-you-explain-how-it-s-not-a-meaningless-health-decision-to-stop-periods-with-hormonal-contraceptives-nbsp\"><span id=\"can-you-explain-how-its-not-a-meaningless-health-decision-to-stop-periods-with-hormonal-contraceptives\">Can you explain how it\u2019s not a meaningless health decision to stop periods with hormonal contraceptives?&nbsp;<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Why periods and ovulation are important for women&#039;s health \/\/ Lisa Hendrickson-Jack\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/myn5epQzvIc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lisa Hendrickson-Jack<\/strong>: \u201cA lot of women go on hormonal contraceptives when they have periods that are&nbsp;\u2018irregular,\u2019&nbsp;and what they\u2019re told is that&nbsp;the hormonal contraceptives are regulating&nbsp;their&nbsp;cycle. Many women are put on hormonal contraceptives when they have period problems\u2014whether it\u2019s irregular cycles, whether it\u2019s pain, if your bleeding is too heavy, if you\u2019re spotting from time to time, anything\u2014and what you\u2019re told is that this is actually fixing them.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I think it\u2019s helpful to recognize the Pill stops you from having periods. Most of us don\u2019t know that. When&nbsp;you\u2019re&nbsp;taking the Pill or some other monthly formulation, you\u2019ll get a bleed&nbsp;every 28 days, and&nbsp;so,&nbsp;it seems as though it\u2019s the perfect solution&nbsp;because&nbsp;it&nbsp;really&nbsp;does make you like clockwork. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;But what many&nbsp;women&nbsp;don\u2019t know&nbsp;is when you\u2019re on hormonal contraceptives, it suppresses ovulation.&nbsp;The&nbsp;vast majority of contraceptive options&nbsp;either completely or partially suppress ovulation.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;when you\u2019re taking&nbsp;it&nbsp;you\u2019re&nbsp;literally not ovulating, and when you experience a bleed it\u2019s actually not a period; it\u2019s&nbsp;called&nbsp;a withdrawal bleed. In order to experience a true menstrual&nbsp;period,&nbsp;you do have to ovulate. And the reason that\u2019s important is because ovulation is&nbsp;how&nbsp;we&nbsp;make&nbsp;our hormones.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;As we&nbsp;approach ovulation, we are&nbsp;producing&nbsp;estrogen,&nbsp;and that helps to build up our uterine lining and does a lot of other things\u2014it helps us to&nbsp;produce cervical fluid and&nbsp;all kinds of&nbsp;things&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;can track and&nbsp;chart&nbsp;when we\u2019re charting&nbsp;with fertility awareness.&nbsp;And after ovulation,&nbsp;we\u2019re producing progesterone and that helps us to mature the uterine lining and prepare the uterine lining for pregnancy.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;And&nbsp;so,&nbsp;one of the&nbsp;reasons&nbsp;why&nbsp;hormonal&nbsp;contraceptives&nbsp;work so well is&nbsp;because&nbsp;they stop you from ovulating&nbsp;and&nbsp;if&nbsp;there\u2019s&nbsp;no egg you&nbsp;can\u2019t&nbsp;have a baby, so that\u2019s great if you\u2019re avoiding pregnancy.&nbsp;It&nbsp;also stops hormone production so&nbsp;you\u2019re&nbsp;not making&nbsp;a&nbsp;mature&nbsp;full thick uterine lining that\u2019s capable of supporting life.&nbsp;So&nbsp;again, when&nbsp;you\u2019re&nbsp;trying to prevent pregnancy it&#8217;s great\u2014there\u2019s&nbsp;no egg, you&nbsp;can&#8217;t&nbsp;get pregnant\u2014the uterine lining&nbsp;cant&nbsp;support life; so it\u2019s very effective that way. But what we actually don\u2019t consider is it\u2019s actually suppressing&nbsp;ovulation, so we\u2019re not making our own hormones.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;So&nbsp;one of the white lies that were told about hormonal contraception is that it tricks our bodies into thinking&nbsp;that&nbsp;we\u2019re pregnant&nbsp;and so that\u2019s why we can\u2019t get&nbsp;pregnant.&nbsp;If&nbsp;you&nbsp;look at the hormone profile&nbsp;of a woman on contraceptives: the artificial hormones&nbsp;suppress&nbsp;ovulation, and since ovulation is how we&nbsp;make&nbsp;our hormones, for women on contraceptives, their&nbsp;natural&nbsp;estrogen and progesterone&nbsp;production is&nbsp;very,&nbsp;very&nbsp;low\u2014flat line.&nbsp;So&nbsp;it\u2019s more similar to menopause.&nbsp;But,&nbsp;of&nbsp;course, it&#8217;s not good marketing to say it puts you into an early chemical menopause. But if you think about it that way, then all of the sudden it makes sense\u2014okay, why is it that these&nbsp;twenty-year-olds&nbsp;are&nbsp;having&nbsp;vaginal&nbsp;dryness,&nbsp;and low libido, and all these different issues.&nbsp;Well,&nbsp;it makes more sense when you understand&nbsp;how it really works in the body.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-why-are-the-mental-health-effects-of-the-pill-nbsp-often-overlooked-nbsp\"><span id=\"why-are-the-mental-health-effects-of-the-pill-often-overlooked\">Why are the mental health effects of the Pill&nbsp;often overlooked?&nbsp;<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"How Can Birth Control Affect Your Mental Health?\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Lj1qkebASR0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lisa Hendrickson-Jack<\/strong>: &#8220;Well,&nbsp;we already know women are considered more emotional\u2026&nbsp;all of the&nbsp;stereotypes\u2026 so when you as a woman go to a doctor and say that you have anxiety, depression, or panic attacks, there\u2019s this inherent issue with&nbsp;&#8216;well that\u2019s a part of being a woman.&#8217; So,&nbsp;there\u2019s&nbsp;an inherent barrier to proper diagnosis and care in general and I think we can all recognize those stereotypes.\u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;That aside, it\u2019s definitely a challenge for women who are on birth control to have that assessed. And&nbsp;there\u2019s&nbsp;a number of reasons why. I would say one of the reasons is&nbsp;because&nbsp;although there is a lot of evidence to show&nbsp;that there is a connection between hormonal contraception and mood changes\u2026 in the [product] insert: mood changes, anxiety, depression\u2014it&#8217;s&nbsp;there. Even the manufacturer has that as one of the side effects. . .&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;With that said, what I learned when I interviewed a number of doctors over the years on the [Fertility Friday] podcast, is that in medical school it seems as though doctors are taught about the life-threatening&nbsp;side effects&nbsp;and how to mitigate&nbsp;those risks, almost to the exclusion of the non-life threatening risks.&nbsp;Specifically,&nbsp;when I was interviewing doctors what I was told by the doctors was they were taught about the risks of stroke and pulmonary embolism,&nbsp;etc&#8230;&nbsp;and they were taught that women over 35, and women who&nbsp;smoked,&nbsp;or women who were morbidly obese were at a greater risk, so they were identifying those factors to identify which type of hormone would be a lower risk\u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;So,&nbsp;when it comes to anxiety and depression, and low libido, and difficulty to orgasm, and painful sex, many&nbsp;doctors don\u2019t seem to know or aren\u2019t&nbsp;necessarily&nbsp;familiar with those side effects. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;A scary stat&nbsp;to illustrate this&nbsp;is&nbsp;that teenage girls who are on hormonal contraceptives are much more likely to also be on antidepressants.&nbsp;There\u2019s&nbsp;research and studies that show this correlation. If you knew that hormonal contraceptives increase your chance of depression, anxiety, then if a&nbsp;16-year-old&nbsp;comes&nbsp;into your office and says&nbsp;she\u2019s&nbsp;depressed you could say, &#8216;Are you on hormonal contraceptives?&nbsp;There\u2019s&nbsp;a link there,&nbsp;so maybe we come off it for some months and see if there\u2019s an improvement and if there isn\u2019t then we can look at some other prescription or some other treatment for that.&#8217;&nbsp;That\u2019s&nbsp;not what happens.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;So&nbsp;for adult women that are facing these side effects and symptoms, the hard truth is it\u2019s&nbsp;kind of&nbsp;up to you to educate yourself&nbsp;on those most common side effects&nbsp;because&nbsp;its&nbsp;not every time that you go into your doctor&#8217;s office that those&nbsp;links are going to be made, and&nbsp;you\u2019re&nbsp;maybe more likely to come out with another prescription for an antidepressant than you are&nbsp;for someone to make the link that it could be&nbsp;related&nbsp;to the birth control.\u2026 <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Many women who have these emotional problems&nbsp;because they\u2019re&nbsp;on hormonal contraceptives end up in a psychologist&#8217;s office, but [similarly] the therapist doesn\u2019t necessarily screen to say &#8216;are you on&nbsp;contraceptives because&nbsp;we know&nbsp;there\u2019s&nbsp;a&nbsp;link.&#8217; So,&nbsp;you could fully be getting therapy for a condition of anxiety, panic&nbsp;attacks,&nbsp;or depression,&nbsp;when literally you just need to switch contraceptives or come off contraceptives.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-for-a-woman-who-wants-a-family-in-the-future-how-could-hormonal-contraceptives-make-it-harder-to-conceive-when-she-gets-off-them-and-how-could-switching-to-fam-help-nbsp\"><span id=\"for-a-woman-who-wants-a-family-in-the-future-how-could-hormonal-contraceptives-make-it-harder-to-conceive-when-she-gets-off-them-and-how-could-switching-to-fam-help\">For a woman who wants a family in the future, how could hormonal contraceptives make it harder to conceive when she gets off them, and how could switching to FAM help?&nbsp;<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Should You Be Worrying About Your Fertility Now?\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/41auj8oCjBM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lisa Hendrickson-Jack<\/strong>: \u201cMy version of feminism allows you to opt not to have children when you\u2019re not ready, but it would also allow you to have children when you do, and really emphasize that part of it as&nbsp;well\u2014not&nbsp;sacrificing one for the other. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Many women are not aware that when taking hormonal contraceptives that there is a transition period that your body goes through when you come off of them&#8230;. It can take anywhere from nine to twelve cycles before your cycle is fully normalized in all areas. There\u2019s no evidence to say the Pill causes fertility problems, but there are two big challenges:&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>There\u2019s this transition period, so women coming off contraceptives, the research shows it can take longer for conception to happen\u2026 on average it can take eight months or more to conceive. Given that we have all grown up in a world that tells us that we can get pregnant at the drop of a dime, you can imagine what can happen when a woman has been avoiding pregnancy for a decade and she comes off [hoping to conceive], and the first month [she doesn&#8217;t conceive] she\u2019s okay. By month two she\u2019s freaking out;\u00a0by month eight she\u2019s probably already signed up for fertility treatments\u2014when nobody necessarily told her about this transition period. So that\u2019s problem one.\u00a0<br><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Because hormonal contraceptives suppress ovulation&#8230; what can happen is because it\u2019s suppressing your cycle you don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on [if you have a fertility problem]. An analogy is if you had a grease fire in your kitchen and your fire alarm is going off and you pull out the battery and just keep going about your business&#8230; If you have really horrible painful periods, I\u2019m not saying the Pill won\u2019t provide symptom relief, because it does, but there\u2019s a difference between symptom relief and solving the problem. <br><br>&#8220;So if you have really horrible, hard periods and you go on the Pill for symptom relief, I would suggest that, while you\u2019re getting\u00a0that symptom relief, start to really understand what\u2019s really happening; see a functional practitioner; start to get under the hood of the car, even while you\u2019re on contraceptives, so at some point when you are thinking of starting your period you have the option to come off and not have these horrible periods still. Because eventually, you\u2019re going to have to come off of it. If you want to have a child, eventually you have to come off of it&#8230; <br><br>&#8220;If you have a specific cycle problem you were put on the Pill for, there\u2019s a greater risk when coming off the Pill with the cycle problem still there, because the Pill didn\u2019t actually fix the underlying issue. That\u2019s problem number two.\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;So, for women who are wanting to get pregnant at some point, fertility awareness can be extremely beneficial. Because when you\u2019re charting your cycle and avoiding pregnancy\u2014but you\u2019re still ovulating and still have a normal cycle\u2014[then] when you\u2019re ready to have a child there is no transition period that your body has to go through&#8230;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The challenge with hormonal contraceptives is you can emotionally switch from a zero to a ten in terms of your desire to have a child but it can take months before your body can transition because you were taking something that was actively, physically suppressing your ovulatory function, and your normal reproductive capabilities. Again there\u2019s no research to show this is permanent, but if you are planning to have a child in a couple of years, it makes perfect sense to think about your choice of birth control method.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;It makes sense, if you have a time horizon, if you are planning ahead, to consider coming off hormonal contraceptives I say 18 months to two years. I say, if you were put on the Pill for issues&#8230; 18 months to two years is reasonable because when you come off the Pill there\u2019s the transition, and if you have an underlying problem, it may take some time to sort that out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;So come off the Pill before you\u2019re ready to have a baby, find another way to avoid pregnancy, so you can give your body a year so you can normalize; if there are any issues you can see what they are and try to address them. 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